RE: RE: "For God so loved the world" This one phrase should change our mind about God.
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RE: "For God so loved the world" This one phrase should change our mind about God.

RE: "For God so loved the world" This one phrase should change our mind about God.

So here's the part where the fake, cheery SEO styled "agree with everything" mentality that dominates this sty of a website goes away and I offer some rational, scathing criticism.

You've been warned. :D

I think the phrase we need to focus on is not "For God so loved the world..." more so than "God sent". Notice the word "sent" is the past tense variant, something that happened and not something that will happen or is happening. This is very important, especially when we're discussing a deity who canonically is supposed to be all knowing and all powerful.

Let's have a brief look at what those two character traits mean before we go any further. All knowing, or omniscient, does not mean "knows all that there is". It's so much more than that. The term means "knows all that is possible, and all that is NOT possible, to know". Omniscience isn't all of THE information, it is INFINITE POSSIBLE information. Likewise, omnipotence does not mean "can lift any heavy boulder" or "can make anything you see around you". It means INFINITE POTENTIAL FOR POWER. For the omniscient being, no knowledge is beyond knowing and no outcome is unknown. For the omnipotent being, all action is easier than breathing, INFINITE displays of power require 0 energy input. The creation of the universe for such a being was neither confusing, nor difficult.

So, now that we've established some parameters here, a problem should be evident to you. Why is an omnipotent, omniscient being in a reactionary position? Why was a fix to a problem sent? Why does a being who knew specifically, with unlimited clarity, what would happen have to REACT to a problem? Why does a being with unlimited potential to fix any errors in his reasoning BEFORE he acts send an imperfect solution to a problem he obviously knew would occur?

God may have loved the world, but he didn't love it enough to employ his defining character traits in their fullest measure to ensure he didn't HAVE to incarnate within it and perform an incredibly painful and horrible task to poorly fix a problem he knew would occur from the outset. It's the same mentality I hear on the news after every severe storm outbreak in the American midwest: " Oh we just lost everything and we'll literally never be able to live as good a life as we did, mathematically speaking, and everyone who lived in our general vicinity is either dead or just as permanently ruined as we are, but THANK GOD."

Thank god? Thank the being who knew the tornado would come but didn't love you enough to avert it BEFORE it happened to spare you soul crushing hardship for the rest of your life? Thank god for using unbelievable suffering cast upon extremely limited and unseeing beings such as ourselves to prove menial philosophical points? (Lest you be tempted to suggest god did this to teach us something. I teach my children not to harm others but I don't do it by tying them up and bull whipping them until they vomit and pass out)

No, this "God so loved the world" nonsense doesn't pan out logically. God may love the world, but not very much. Certainly not enough to do what any intelligent and capable human being would do in averting trouble BEFORE it happens. And when that capability and intelligence is literally infinite in scope, as opposed to our little meaningless dust-triumphs on the tiny speck floating around an insignificant sun, failing to act cannot be attributed to love.

At best it is a sign of disinterest. At worst, an indication of outright malevolence. Either god is all-knowing/all-powerful, OR he is loving. Simple empirical observation demonstrates easily that he is not both.

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